SUBJECT: R.M. BARTON

 INTERVIEWER: LEW BARTON





S: ...could get some things better for them, but the thing is, the Indians

 will fight the Indians, because one Indian don't like the views of another.

 So they just fight 'til.there won't be any more Indians, and the white

 man is going to have peace.

I: That's a short and crisp analysis I guess. Uh...do you think Bruce is

 brave enough to face up to all this unrest, and struggling amongst the

 Indians?

S: So far. He's not a coward, what you might say, but what's the difference

 between a coward and a hero. It depends on the circumstances. If I was

 walking down the road with a girl, and about two or three boys about

 twice as big as me got to picking on us...I'd just turn around and walk

 the other way. Would that make me a coward?

I: No...I wouldn't say so.

S: But see if I'm walking down there, and somebody about my size, and about

 one of them...see that way the circumstances are different, and the other

 way, I'm out-numbered, I'm out-sized, and I!m not crazy.

I: Well it would be crazy to fight a group that big...wouldn't it?

S: It'd be sort of heroic I guess, but it'd be.ldumb;. *

I: Um huh...there's a thin line I guess between foolhardiness and heroism.

 Is that what you're saying?

S: Sort of...in a word...yes.

I: So it all depends on the point of view?

S: Yeah...and the circumstances.


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