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B: I know you were not there when this happened, but I understand that it was a
 fairly big media event with Governor Kirk on Friday in Manatee. Can you explain
 what the Palace Guard was?

H: I have heard that comment a few times, and I guess it referred to the guys on our
 staff who protected the governor and that a lot of aides protected the governor to
 the extent sometimes they did not give him even good advice to protect him from
 different things. But I really never figured out who the Palace Guard was.

B: Apparently, there was this big media event where they were having yet another
 face to face situation, and apparently the room was filled with blonde
 schoolchildren in blazers and pants. Do you know...?

H: Like I said, I was not there for that particular one, but Claude Kirk was not past
 using, you know, from a PR standpoint, I do not know who invited the kids there.

B: So they were local kids?

H: I was not there at that meeting, so I do not know how they got there.

B: I just was wondering if you heard about it. I know you were in Tampa.

H: Yes, I do not really remember it. I have seen the pictures of the governor in the
 meeting. I never really noticed the kids' picture there with him.

B: After the hearing, what happened then?

H: Well, that was on a Friday, and again, the judge issued orders that by Monday
 the governor was to have it over, no more. On Sunday, I believe, Kirk said that it
 was up to the courts now, [that] he had done all he could do, that a fine of
 $10,000 on him would not solve anything and it had to go to the court. He felt,
 again, like any dispute like that was between the state and district court should
 be in the Supreme Court and not a district court. That was the normal rule, but I
 think they ignored that, and for the second time. So Kirk backed off. He just went
 his way after that.

B: Did you go back to Manatee that weekend after the hearing?

H: No, I headed to Tallahassee. My wife was being operated on, on Monday. No, I
 had nothing other than that job in Manatee County at that time. I did not know
 Manatee County until I went there for that.

B: So after the hearing, it just sort of petered out. There was no strong presence at
 the office anymore?