MCBC 8 page 18 H: Yes. B: So who was he dealing with? H: I presume he was dealing with the court [in] some way. B: Krentzmen or the U. S. attorney's office? H: The U. S. attorney's office, and that they had been in agreement that we would be there at a certain time to accept the service from the federal marshals and the United States attorney, and we would appear that day at 2:00 in Tampa. I think the sticking point was, I think the federal marshal said something to the governor, well, you reneged, and then the governor said no, I did not renege. You all are the ones who reneged and caused the problem. This was not the way it was supposed to be. Anyway, they finally got it worked out, and we were called and told, look, you need to be in Tampa at 2:00, and we got there. B: Perhaps this will jar your memory, perhaps not, but I know Mr. Hoffman said that the sheriff's department spirited you out and put you up at a hotel for the night, and I think it had something to do with the fact that you were afraid that when you were served by the marshals, you were going to be taken out in handcuffs or something like that... H: Right. B: And you had an aversion to that. H: No, I did not have any aversion to that. I was just determined they were not going to arrest me there. B: I see. H: And they were going to put the handcuffs on me. I mean, he was reaching for them when he said you are under arrest. B: On Thursday? H: Yes, and I was not about to do that. Of course, if they could have gotten to me Friday, yes, they probably would have tried to, since we did not appear before, you know, did not allow it. But on Friday, if the governor was going to accept the service, why, I did not have a fear they would try to handcuff me there, necessarily, because if the governor accepts the service [and] says you are going to be there at 2:00, I mean, if you are not there, well, they are going to come looking for you, sure enough.