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H: The only governor's aide, [of] anybody involved in the governor's office. Yeah,
 nobody else, but the deputies were armed.

B: Talk a little bit about Richard Weitzenfeld.

H: I could show you letters I received from him, thanking me for the relationship we
 had together and how we stood together. Dick was in a very peculiar position. I
 mean, he could have [gone] to jail, too, and he could have had big fines. Like
 any elected politician, he did not want to destroy himself at home, and he did not
 want to wake up and have a felony charged against him because he would have
 been gone right then. I would have had to go back to Tallahassee and find a new
 sheriff for the governor to fill his position. So, he was caught between a rock and
 a hard place, but he hung in there until the very last moment. He capitulated a
 little earlier than the rest of us.

B: When was that?

H: On [Thursday]. I believe my memory is correct. On [Thursday] when the governor
 did not appear but Hoffman and I appeared at the long hearing. Why, we refused
 to obey Krentzmen's orders, but Dick, I felt like, agreed to carry it out and agreed
 to get out of the way.

B: I should have asked this earlier with the police presence. Were they in uniform,
 or were they in plainclothes?

H: Most of them were in plainclothes, if my memory serves me correctly, with the
 sheriff's office.

B: Why was that?

H: We just wanted to downplay it a little bit, as much as possible. At least, I felt like
 that. I did not want any more police presence shown than possible. Like with the
 Highway Patrol, [we] usually kept them inside, out of the way as much as
 possible. We really were not wanting to have that confrontation, and I did not
 want to aggravate it by having a big presence with tons of people outside and
 looking like a battlefield. We were hoping to get through it the easiest way
 possible. Colonel Beach, who was a great guy, certainly hung right in there with
 us with the Highway Patrol and did everything he could to help us, and
 Weitzenfeld did, too.

B: It sounds like even though you were happy to delegate matters to the
 appropriate aides, it seems like you were pretty much stage managing the whole
 affair.

H: I felt like as the governor's chief of staff, that is what he wanted me to do. That is