MCBC 8 page 7 B: So, you flew down on Sunday, and you were there when the order was read with Lieutenant Governor [Raymond C.] Osborne? H: Yes. B: Why was he down there? H: He and the governor were there together, I believe. That was the day that Dooley and I were kind of out of the way. I believe that was on Thursday. B: No, it was the Sunday, in the original suspension order. H: Sunday, I am sorry, in the original suspension. I do not recall really why the lieutenant governor necessarily was there. It was just part of the lieutenant governor's job to show support and backup to the governor. B: Put up a solid front. H: Yes. B: So when you got down there, talk about, if you would, what you did during the week. Was there anything to do? H: Well, there wasn't a whole lot to do. I remember that it was awful hard to try to get out to get something to eat with all the federal guys running around. They would try to block me in. Colonel [Eldridge] Beach, the head of the Highway Patrol, was a good friend of mine, but he was worried that I was going to get hurt. They would put me in a Highway Patrol car and race me out of the place, go ten blocks and change me into another car, to get me somewhere where I could even get a bite to eat. You could not get anything in or out, hardly. It was very tense. After the first encounter with the federal marshals, we kept getting the word that more and more and more of them were arriving in Tampa and coming down. Even Colonel Beach told me, Lloyd, you are a good friend of mine. I am warning you, things are getting tough and you are going to get hurt if something does not give. He said, I feel like just taking you out of here. I said, Beach, I cannot go and leave the governor. He has given me instructions of what he wants, and I will stick with it. Of course, Judge Krentzmen asked me that same question, how far would I go for the governor? And Briggs asked me if I would commit a felony, you know, and how far would I go for the governor? And I tried to tell both of them that I had more to lose, probably, than any staff member there. I was a national defense executive reservist, the liaison between the state of Florida and the Department of Army. Any kind of civil disorders, natural disasters and all that, I sat on the state of Florida civil defense board. I carried more badges in my pocket than most people. I always had what I considered a good record in law enforcement, and the last thing in the world I wanted to do