B: I am in the home of Mr. Lloyd Hagaman on July 1, 2000. Mr. Hagaman, thank
 you for meeting with me today.

H: It is a pleasure.

B: We are here to discuss Mr. Hagaman's involvement in the Manatee County
 school crisis of 1970. Mr. Hagaman, I was wondering if you are a native
 Floridian?

H: No. I was born in Toledo, Ohio, and I came from Knoxville, Tennessee to Florida
 in 1960. Contracted on the Cape [Canaveral] for eight years and became the
 governor's chief of staff in 1968. When Claude [Kirk] got elected, Tom Ferguson
 was his first senior aide, and I became his second one when Tom left.

B: How did you manage to make that segue?

H: I originally started the Demo-Kirks that Florida State University did a study [of]
 and said they were responsible for electing the first Republican in 100 years. I
 was a good friend of Haydon Burns [Florida governor, 1965-1967], and Robert
 King High [former mayor of Miami] beat him out in the primary. When Haydon
 wanted something in Brevard County where I lived at that time, they would
 usually call on me. Mildred used to come down for different functions, and I
 would kind of be her escort. When Robert King High, and he was from
 Tennessee, beat out Haydon, why, I did not like him in Tennessee and I did not
 like him in Florida. After [High] won the primary, about two or three weeks later,
 he came to Brevard County. I always thought he was kind of an arrogant person.
 He had the gall to tell some of the Democratic executive committee that they did
 not support him in the primary and he did not need them in the general, which
 would have been normally true. If you got the nomination, it was just paramount
 to election. Well, they all came back kind of steaming a little. One of the
 members said, boy, I wish there was something we could do about this. I said
 well, I am going to try to do something. I laid awake all night trying to think of
 what could we do, and decided that we would start the Demo-Kirks. The next
 day, I had 7,000 signs printed up, Be a Demo-Kirk, Support Claude R. Kirk, and I
 went around the state to different people that I felt like were sympathetic and did
 not like the way things turned out and were conservative. It just mushroomed. I
 had a lot of signs printed and traveled to every county in Florida, I guess, putting
 out those signs. Claude Kirk did not even know where it came from for months
 and months. Finally after so long a time, it got so big I could not handle it all by
 myself, so I finally told [Kirk] where it was coming from and we went from there. I
 traveled around with the musical band that traveled all over North Florida and
 what have you. It was quite an experience. I had never done anything like that
 before. It was fun.

B: What exactly were your responsibilities in your position with Governor Kirk?