9 They steamed them sometimes. I know for a fact that they steamed the greens with only some very light seasoning over them, but they are not like we Lumbees know how to cook them with the seasoning, or fry the collards the way that we are noted for through the years. B: Well, they're certainly very popular back home among Indian people. I think collards are something that sort of grow on you, though, more or less, don't you? For example, children don't usually like them very much, but the older they get, the more they like collard greens. 0: I guess. B: I love them. I could eat them for breakfast, really. 0: I loved them also. I recall how, in my years as a child, seeing my mother give them to very small children, some of the grand- children, when they would visit them occasionally. I recall seeing her feeding them collard greens, or cabbage with some cornbread, and they seemed to love them. B: Yeah, they really are tasty. They're better...you know when they are best to me is in the fall of the year, when the frost first falls and hits your collard greens. 0: That's an old saying I've heard through the years among our people. It seems to make them sweeter. The bitterness leaves them, after the frost hits them. B: It's a very valuable vegetable, too because you can grow it all the year round. You can keep collard greens the year round, except when there is snow on the ground, probably. 0: Right. B: And even then they sometimes survive the snow. 0: That's true. B: Well, you've been very kind to give us your time, and I know the time is running out. Very shortly now, people will be going home, I don't want to detain you unduly. I appreciate so much this opportunity of talking with you, and of you sharing your experiences with us along these lines. And I want to wish you good luck and Godspeed in all your endeavors, both as a mem- ber of the tribal council and in your works. 0: Thank you kindly, Mr. Barton. It's been a pleasure. B: Thank you very much.