6 permanently, or will you take others on, or what? 0: Some will be permanently. After a year's time, if there is any wants to leave and seek employment elsewhere, we should hope that they will be prepared by the knowledge and experience they have gained, the training in our restaurant, to go somewhere else and work. But we will keep a staff of the employees that we have hired. B: I like the name. I wonder who came up with that name. 0: The name Council Fire, a young Lumbee lady named Mary Taylor named the restaurant. B: Is this the very pretty girl who plays on the Lumbee Indian Girls' Softball Team? 0: I'm not sure that she plays on the softball team, but she is a young, pretty girl. B: This is, she's about fifteen or sixteen, somewhere in there? 0: Right in that age bracket. B: Uh, huh. Yes, I know her. I like the name very much. Wonder if we're going to have Miss American Indian of Baltimore again this year? Have you heard any talk about that? 0: Mrs. has been working on that. I do hope we can get that pageant going. It shouldn't be dropped; it was very interesting. B: Yes, I thought so. Yes, we do need somebody to represent us. Do you find any great differences between living here and living back in the Carolinas? 0: I don't think I would find now any great differences from that I lived there. When I came to Baltimore, it was much different then. There was a great difference at that time, the working conditions for which I did come here for. But I don't think there would be that much difference now; in fact, I think I would enjoy living there now. B: Mostly your problem was a problem of training, wasn't it? 0: Right. B: Now that you've got your training, you are training other young