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J: And Paul added on a whole new story?

C: Well, the two boys were born and they just had one big bedroom and
 one small bedroom. So they built an upstairs and added that great
 big bedroom. Donald had the downstairs bedroom and Dick slept in
 the bedroom off of theirs. They were both born after they moved;
 that's the only place they lived.

J: Is there anything else you now remember about Painter Printing?

C: People kept coming in and wanting to make his shop into a union
 shop. He was fighting it, and I think he still did up until the
 end. At one time, some union men came in here and I remember
 hearing Momma and Papa talking about it, and that Paul and I
 weren't to be frightened. Some of the people that were working
 for Papa did want to join the union. We had dinner that night and
 I remember they pulled all the shades down and it was very hush-
 -hush. Then later on in life, I would hear them say occasionally
 that the union was causing trouble again. I guess the union was
 trying to come in on the little businesses and get in control.
 The printing company isn't union now, is it?

J: No.

C: So I guess he held out against that.

J: Was that about 1919?

C: It was before I married in '22.

J: Was Dewey Finelli there then?

C: Oh yes, I think so. Somebody else you really should talk to is
 Joyce Bowen. He's in abstract business here and is my age. Any-
 thing that I remember, he would remember. He knew Papa and he
 might know something about the money that was spent on the Painter
 Printing Company. There were colored houses down there, and some
 nice colored families. We had what we called good colored sec-
 tions and bad. Red City was good colored people, and we got most
 of our help from down there. Dun's Bottom was across town; that
 area is still known as Dun's Bottom, as I understand it. And
 Yamasee was another colored town. There were three of them.

J: Was one of them Spring Hill?

C: No, Spring Hill was what is the truck route now. Our old homestead
 was on Spring Hill. There was a spring in there and through the
 years Austin and I have bought that property back. We have since
 sold it and are still collecting for it. But we would ride out
 and try to find the spring. There's a great big sinkhole which we
 think now must have been where the spring was.

J: So much of the help that Papa got was from Red City?