SJ 6ABC cml Page 43 G: periods where the upswing in the job market was very great. Everybody had a, everybody was starting anthropology programs and everybody had jobs, but I did get one guy lined up, Ted Sterne who agreed to take the job. He was from University of Pennsylvania, I believe and the state fiddled around so long getting the appropriations passed. It was one of those times when the second session of legislation had to come up to pass the budget or something. At any rate, by the time we actually could say yes, he'd accepted a position in either Washington or Oregon where he still is, but I, and Hale by that time had gone back up to Michigan. We were in touch through him to Jimmy Griffith and finally with nobody, it turned out, nobody interested. Jimmy suggested, said, well, there's a fellow at Andover Academy who's making a second career in archeology and he might be interested. He doesn't have to have, make his full living out of it so he might be interested. JI got in touch with Ripley. Turned out he was interested in moving to Florida and so I hired him, and I must admit I had some qualms because here I was twenty-something. Here he was forty-five and most of my working relationships had been with Hale. Very close W: Same age. G: Same age, a lot of mutual interests so when Rip walked into the museum.and introduced himself, we had by that time, my office was in the old Siegle building in the old state museum. The University was giving us that. W: So you moved from, you G: From uh, W: Highland Hammock G: Highland Hammock to Gainesville. Actually, that was fairly early which was a good move because it put us in contact with the library and things like that and the, we just had a vacant room there in the old Siegle Building so we used it, but I imagine that I was more nervous than Ripley that_ morning. He came to duty. Worked out, it worked fine. iThere are one or two things about Ripley I, I had always let Hale do most of the driving cause I'd just as soon sit there and not bother but soon as I took a couple