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G: and things like that that he paid for. I was the, basically, the program chairman.

 I was on a committee with,Fred Slight was on it, I'm sure, and Ethel CoAbe Freeman,

 American Museum ,ec_, Le.-r down around in here. There were a couple of other

 people and it kept getting kind of later and later and later and finally we had one

 meeting up there at Winter Park and I said we have got ten to fifteen days to say

 yes, we have made some contacts with that "b Yes, we're

 going or we're not going and we went. We finally got off .

 and we went and it was a, I think, very good meeting.

W: It was an international meeting, wasn't it?

G: To a certain extent, yeah. There was some people tied in with the

 international program, some ambassador, ambassador from someplace spoke

W: Nicaragua? No, uh, Honduras.

G: Honduras. He was, oh, about ninety or so.

 ......... I think he retired o,)- .. n.ri. l,. ,J

 You know one person who was there at those meetings?



W: Should have been mentioned. I don't recall, you

 Know, running across his name at all.

G: Well, you didn't anticipate it. He's retiree down in that area. Quite elderly. And it's

 one of those things that W,.,i -'get to a certain stage of this whole cast off

 generation, you don't want to have anything to do with it. Anybody that



W: What, did you get to talk to him and what did he think about the papers that were

 presented there?

G: I didn't talk to him about the papers then. I've talked to him several times and it was

 just sort of general chit chat back and forth about more than anything

 in particular. We kind of avoid the subject because it used to, I had heard that he

 never did become fully reconstructed to the, see he publishedlhe hound Builders in