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W: around that, and hear a little bit more discussion of what happened cause the records

 show very clearly at that point. I think it goes around 1952, '53, that there was a

 major shift in the park service.

G: Yeah, that, we can always drop back behind that depending upon how much you want to

 talk about.

W: Well, I just, we've got the conference in iD Da and, was that where the Florida

 Anthro pology Society was instigated? Conceived?

G: Kind of pretty much, although it was, it was separate but related to it and we were

 all together there, yes. And the, I'm not sure who really had the idea for the society.

 It was kind of a come together sort of thing. We all knew we wanted something a little

 different from what we had experienced. Hale and I had seen the Illinois State

 Archeological Society which was a relic collectors club by and large. Some of us had

 always participated in it from the university's trying to uplift the caliber of the

 organization. It never quite succeeded. The meetings were held at the Illinois

 Academy of Science as the anthropology section of the Academy of Science. They were

 good relic collector meetings with people with their box full of projector points and

 all the rest. We didn't want that. John Goggin felt that there should be kind of a

 society but he didn't think that the Massachusetts model or the Connecticut model

 or the ones he was familiar with there were necessarily it, and (tape ends here.)

(Tape B, side 2)

W: So nobody really had, they all had an idea of what they wanted, but no one model

 was

G: Had an idea of what we didn't want, so the first, I think the first really decisions

 was that it would be the Florida Anthropological Society, not the Florida Archeological

 society, that it would cover the entire field of anthropology. Secondly, we had this

 small organizing committee which we talked Dr. Ermin into being the chairman of cause

 he had status at a university and was in Gainesville, and then there was John Goggin,

 Hale, me, Dr. Holt, who's Presbyterian minister up in Jacksonville, who was interested