SJ 6ABC cml Page 33 G: meeting of the board, everybody condemned their actions at the national conference on state parks and all that. But all that doesn't ever do any good. W: Was this very political, was that the problem? G: Well, yes, you might say it was political. I don't know what the ladies really wanted. --other than they wanted to be rid of Scoggin and they had some bad advice. They'd gone up to Georgia and up there they had the director of the state parks, no staff.. the reason was that in Georgia, the way they were run was that the local senators or congressman ran them directly and there wasn't any organization. Well, this was all this waste that we had in Tallahassee. We had an assistant director, we had a head of maintenance operations, we had a chief landscape architect, depart_-:__m- W: Department of archeology, department of history G: Yeah, so all this was just wasted in Florida. Let's get rid of that. Sweep it clean. Get rid of the, find out where the slush fund is and, W: Dr. Lloyd, a dollar a year. G: He was really upset, about as much as anybody about the whole thing. But, that was S Ict\ l SC while I was still sitting in there, and trying to get out, we had two kids at the time, little ones, couldn't just quit, you know. "". ._ It took a little while for Hale to work out a W: Position G: Position and then that's a further kind of OcJ that followed up because University of Florida wanted the collections and so there was a one meeting of th' what do you call the e\ii' of the regents W: Wasn't board of trustees, was it? G: No, it was, I thought I'd never forget that name. Anyway, they stated that neither state university could employ John W. Griffin until this thing got straightened out. So, finally, the collections remained in, are still in the state museum, and I went to Tallahassee. W: WIFIe you kind of leaped ahead. I was almost going think mayb of any, in a sense