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W: So you came down, checked in at the office and they said

G: No, I didn't even check in at the office on the way. I didn't, we came right through

 Tallahassee, went to Daaona. They were there the fourth of July, hit the field right

 afterwards so it must have been about the fifteenth of July when I reported for duty

 in Tallahassee and didn't know anybody up there really. And the office of the

 Florida Park Service was in a little building shared with the Forest Service on

 Pensacola, I believe and it was, well, it was my first job. It was sort of a new

 experience. Started sitting down writing letters. They had a budget prepared and the

 budget envisioned excavation because it had the archeologist in there and had a truck

W: So they provided you with a truck?

G: Yeah. Foreman, some laborers, other things like that. It did have a little bit of

 money for publication even written in that fifteen thousand dollar budget. I looked it

 over and said what I really need is an assistant archeologist rather than a foreman,

 and let me drop some of this labor here and we'll get an assistant archeologist, so

 I got in touch with Hale and offered him a job as assistant archeologist, which he

 took and we started the thing basically off together. I just had several weeks of

 letter writing and paper type of organization before he arrived on the scene as well.

W: Was he pretty much through with his master's?

G: He was through with his master's.

W: So he had his master's at that time?

G: We both had our master's. His was on the Crable site, which was another on the

 Mississippian site in northern Illinois, so actually, we had worked together on

 a lot of topics as well as just being in school together, we had presented joint

 papers at the Illinois Academy and things like that.

W: What were the major goals of the, of the department of archeology at that point?

G: Really, state-wide survey identification of the resources and hopefully, some

 educational worker tried to encourage people we weren't talking about any legislation

 at the time, protective legislation, but urging people to preserve their sites. We