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W: Well, that's much different than it is today because you pick your committee and you

 defend really just in front of those and

G: Actually, at the end of the thing, then the committee read and passed on Ite

 thesis and then Kate Terrabian, the author of Manual on Style, ,...,. and you still

 didn't get the degree unless you passed her.

W: Well, I think that's the case it is today even that it goes to the editors in the

 graduate school.

G: But when I walked into that room, as I say, those two, all the social and cultural

 anthropologists were just really upset and one of the first things Warner said to

 me, said "do you think this site is worth reporting?" Well, you know, you're under

 attack like that, you know, you back off a little bit and start bumbling and so forth.

 Crogman, a great big man, I don't know whether you've met Bill Crogman or not. He's

W: No, I haven't had the pleasure.

G: about six foot, four. A big man. And he leaned over the table and he says "you're

 damn right it is," so it ended up I was rather silent while Egan and Crogman argued

 against Warner and Redfield about the Fisher site.

W: Well, it was nice to have people on the faculty then, supporting you like that. That was

G: So, after a few minutes, everybody calmed d.-n.TBut that's the way they worked that

 think at that time.

W: So you didn't come back to Florida at all to do any work. So, you just had a project

 up there?

G: Just had a project up there.

W: Did you do, were you on any field schools at Ghicago then?

G: Kincaid, we didn't have any of course during the war. They were all interrupted. And

 the first little short one after the war, Scottie MacNeish and I kind of ran ahead

 without much experience. We had a young student who'd just come in there named Bill

 Sears and, but then, actually no. That was after the war. My field in school was at

 Kincaid, before Pearl Harbor.