S: [You were] born in 1907. T: Yes. S: And I was just always interested in people who had benefited from your work over the years. They are going to be interested to hear about what motivated you. T: Well, I do not know who benefited from it. I think I benefited from what I did more than anybody else did. S: Only all of the musicians like me who have been paid salaries because of your work, and the people who have had the benefit of learning how to sing in the Bach choir, [and] the audiences [have benefitted]. T: Well, the Bach Festival was set to disband when Mrs. Sprague-Smith died, and I was responsible. All of the board, except me, wanted to end it, and I talked the board into keeping it going if I would take care of the deficit and run it. So I was responsible for keeping the Bach Festival going. S: You mentioned Mrs. Sprague-Smith several times, but I do not [know who she is]. T: She is not any relation to the well known, Sprague-Smith up North. There is a Mrs. Sprague-Smith up there who was very influential in musical circles. Apparently this lady was not connected with her. This lady was Isabella Sprague-Smith, I do not even remember now where she was from, but she was a fiery little women. She got ahold of this thing and really made it go. She would get people, [and] drum up people to come and listen to it, and drum up donations. [She] just pushed the thing through and made it go. It was really a pretty darn good organization when she died. She had it recognized nationally and [it had] been on national radio a couple of times, and it was a recognized organization then. That was started in 1936 and she died in 1950. S: She was a great influence. T: She was, all right. She was a little fireeater, though. S: Really, in what way? T: Oh, if she wanted something, she would get it. S: Artistically? T: In any direction. Money, people, anything. I was the treasurer at Rollins at that time when she was alive, and we would charge her to put up the risers, you know, -14-