7 In the accounting was the Catherine Harbon that had worked for us in Baltimore. My function was administrative and I more or less ran the office. In so far as the administrative part. D--That's the Miami office? S--Which was the headquarters. The marketing handled work was by Jack in Baltimore until such time as he moved down here. Jack controlled all of the marketing and salespeople. We had Florida sales offices which more or less came under Leonard. But the national marketing program was run by Jack, who I think was one of the most brilliant marketing people that this country has ever seen. D--Tell me why you think that. S--The marketing idea of Charles Antel was Jack's. The sales force, the creative part of the marketing was dreamed up by Jack. Not that Leonard didn't participate, but the basic ideas came from Jack. Back at Antel he handled the sales force. He handled the production aspect, too. But that was del .gated. The work that Jack delegated. But Jack handled the national sales force of Charles Antel, in marketing and promotion. Leonard handled the advertising part of it. He did the packaging. Both mail order wise and over the counter. The sales force reported to Jack. Thought they did talk constantly together. Leonard controlled the advertising. However, Jack played an active part in the creative part of the advertising. In GAC, the same thing. Jack handled the marketing aspect. The sales force, he hired, he fired, he trained. He set up the creative part of the marketing and sales. Leonard controlled, in GAC, the financial part. Because the office was here he also directly handled the administrative part. When I came to Florida I took over the administrative part of the company. Leonard was active in the financial aspect. Raising the money, looking over the money. Jack, in Baltimore, handled the marketing aspect, with whoever else was involved in the national sales force in Baltimore. Jack was quiet because everyone knew Leonard and they were a fantastic combination. But Jack quietly did all the marketing aspects. he also participated in the more creative aspects of the advertising. So they were an unusual pair together.