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 is that restriction there between the airport and the Bay. Somehow, that is going
 to have to be resolved. It is going to be a tough one to solve. Of course, it does
 interchange now with the interstate system. When you are coming around the
 airport, there are two lanes of the traffic from Memorial around the airport that
 goes on to Interstate 275 East and also West, so you have got access to the
 interstate system. A lot of people use that and get off at Lois [Avenue] or go on
 downtown and get off there, if they want to go downtown. But an awful lot of
 people still use Kennedy, and that is the logjam.

B: Where else would the regional airport have gone to if it had not stayed there?

C: There was discussion about several locations. Of course, Pinellas County did
 their best to get it over there at their airport, which was at that time wide-open. I
 mean, there was nothing around it, primarily, and it could have expanded. I
 guess what you could say was that we won the war, and it is on this side of the
 Bay. It is not that much further from St. Petersburg to Clearwater to the airport,
 but it is further and it is on our side of the Bay. At that time, the northwest had
 not been developed at all. There was a lot of land out there that had not been
 developed. It could have been used as an airport, but that is all developed now. I
 do not see the Tampa International Airport changing in my lifetime, and I am not
 sure how long that is going to be.

B: A long time, we hope.

C: I hope. Yes, we cooperated with the Aviation Authority, trying to figure out how
 was the best way to get traffic in and out of the airport.

B: You think the fact of the airport being out west there on the site of what had been
 Drew Field, during the war and after, do you think the fact that the airport was
 there had anything to do with the interstate being built out to the west end of
 Tampa as it was?

C: I think, obviously, the airport was there, and it would be important to run the
 interstate system by the airport because a lot of our air traffic comes from
 Pinellas County and a lot of it comes from Polk County and Manatee County. It
 was important to be able to get the people to it. That certainly was something, I
 am sure, was thought of at the time. I was not on the Road Board at the time, but
 if they did not think about it, then they were derelict in their duties because that
 was something very important.

B: Before we leave transportation completely, I want to ask you about the Tampa
 Port Authority. We have talked about the Road Board and the Aviation Authority.
 Did you have any dealings or many dealings with the Tampa Port Authority, and
 do you think that has been important in the way Tampa has grown up over the
 years?