HIL CO 73 page 26 them in [unincorporated] Hillsborough County, but the feeling was that the county could not furnish them the water and sewer and all those kinds of things that they needed, and the streets and so forth. It made it easier for it to come about. B: Has it always been that way? When the city has wanted to grow into unincorporated areas, did the county always resist that? C: The only one I can recall the county resisting was that, and that was recently. B: So, in the older annexations, it had not been that big of an issue. C: No, I do not recall there being any big squabble about it. There may have been some people who said, I do not want to be in the city because I do not want double taxation, but it never was a big problem that I knew about. At that time, I [would or would not have been?] in a position to know about it, I guess. I did serve as city attorney in 1978 and 1979. B: City attorney or county attorney? C: City attorney, for the city of Tampa. What happened is that Henry Williams, who had been the city attorney, resigned after a long time and retired. That was two years before [Mayor] Billy Poe's term was over, so he asked me if I would serve for that unexpired time and I did. It was interesting. We did a lot of bond work where we refinanced a lot of bonds and saved an awful lot of interest. They had issued these bonds at a time when the interest rate was fairly high. We got them refunded at a much lower rate, and it was good for the city. 1978 or 1979, I believe it was. Congress was getting ready to pass an act which would have done away with our right to refund under that type of refunding. We would have lost our ability to refund those bonds, so it was important that we get it done. I remember meeting in City Hall, and we had a fiscal advisor, Bill Hough [William R. Hough, municipal bond consultant and founder of the firm by that name] from St. Petersburg. A good Florida man and a good bond man. He was one of the real experts in the state. But he was representing a whole bunch of cities and counties and different areas on refunding. Everybody was trying to get it done before the shoe fell, and nobody knew when that was going to happen. I remember [listening to] him, and we had maybe a room this size. There were probably twenty of us. I said, whatever you do, now, I know you have a bunch of other things going on, but you are the fiscal advisor for this city and it is up to you now to get this done. And if you do not get it done, the mayor is going to be looking right down your throat, and so am I. So, whatever you do, it is goddamn important you get this done. And we did it. We only beat it by probably three or four weeks, but before the shoe fell, we got it accomplished. I guess I was the only person who ever served as county attorney and city attorney, but not at the same time.