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 commissioner?

C: No, I did not know him when he was a county commissioner. I do not really
 know. My friends became active with him. Of course, when I first started
 practicing law here, we took anything that came in the office, from two-bit
 divorces to the biggest case you can get. I am sure some of them were zoning
 cases which the city had to approve for land use. Somehow, I became friendly
 with Nick over a period of time. Later on, after my term on the Road Board which
 ended January of 1965, in December of 1964, I became county attorney. As
 county attorney, you deal with the city a great deal, and that gave me an awful lot
 of opportunities to know people and do things. It was not a very rewarding job,
 not rewarding at all, but it was part-time. I guess I maybe made $5,000 or $6,000
 a year salary, but I only went to the courthouse when it was necessary. It was not
 a full-time job. When I resigned, I made a recommendation that they make it a
 full-time job, and they did, about two years later.

B: Let me back up just a second to when you first came to Tampa. Were you in
 Tampa when the [Estes] Kefauver [senator from Tennessee] hearings
 [regarding organized crime] came to town?

C: I was practicing law in Orlando, and I remember Dot and I were riding home on a
 Friday afternoon listening to the Kefauver committee in Tampa. Kefauver was
 not here. He did not come, but others came. I do not remember the exact date of
 when he came, do you?

B: I think it was 1951.

C: Okay. If it was before October 1, 1951, I was in Orlando. I remember that [one
 of] the two people they were interested in talking to most of all was the sheriff,
 who was Hugh Culbreath. They actually adjourned the hearing, went to his
 home, and required him to open his safe. He had a safe in his home. There was
 not anything in the safe, as far as I know. I think that is what the newspaper said.
 They did not find anything in the safe, I do not think. They never filed any
 grievance against him or anything. The other one that they wanted to talk to was
 the state attorney, who was J. Rex Farrior, Sr., and he was in a hospital and
 subsequently got permission to file written interrogatories and sent them to them
 in Washington. He did not appear. I am sure they talked to him. At that time, we
 had the county solicitor, the constable, the justice of the peace. We had the old
 setup. Subsequently, that of course changed. They probably subpoenaed
 Traficante [Tampa businessman and reputed organized crime figure Santos
 Traficante] and some of those people, but I am sure they did not say anything. I
 was not here at the time.

B: I gather they thought that bolita [underground gambling practice] had been