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 all those kinds of things. They never proved it, but as a result, everybody was
 very careful. I would have been anyway, but I was extremely careful about being
 sure that I am not or none of my family is buying any property where I know a
 road is going. But Al was a good friend. We cut a ribbon over there while he was
 still alive. He has subsequently died. I invited to a ceremony because he was a
 friend of mine. He was a former high school football coach at Clearwater High
 School when I was in high school. He was a teacher and a coach and then went
 in the insurance business. He was a University of Florida man.

B: How did Collins come to appoint him in the first place?

C: I do not know. I never was close to Collins. I guess, probably, he was very active
 in his campaign, and somebody who gave a lot of money maybe insisted on it or
 something. I do not know, but Al was a good guy. I think maybe some of his
 friends just took advantage of him. He was acquitted and never convicted of
 anything, and I am glad.

B: When Governor-elect Bryant first asked you about the Road Board, did you feel
 disposed to accept right away, or did you hesitate and think things over?

C: No, no. I think that was a position that was very important, that gave you the
 opportunity to meet people and be with people who later on could be helpful in a
 law practice, particularly, and, basically, that is what happened.

B: Did you feel strongly about transportation in those days? Was that something
 that had been an important issue for you?

C: Not particularly important. Obviously, at that time, there was not that much of a
 problem because Florida really had not started growing yet. After the [Second
 World] War, people started coming down here, and it was just becoming a
 problem. That was not the reason that I...I did not ask Farris to be on the Road
 Board, saying, in effect, Farris, here is something I have been interested in all my
 life, and I want to help the road system. That did not happen. It was not a great
 thing in my life.

B: But you served a full term on the Road Board.

C: I did.

B: Let me back up a little bit. You had gotten involved in helping Dan McCarty, in
 supporting him in his first election when he ran for governor in 1952. Did you
 work in the campaign, or were you just a supporter of his?

C: Well, my wife's father was very active.