HIL CO 73 page 11 antiquated and had to have something done. B: You mentioned the 1-4 corridor when you were doing your political planning for the Bryant campaign. Did they use any language like that at the time and kind of use 1-4 as a symbol of tying this area together? C: 1-4 at that time had been designed. I mean, they knew where the corridor was going to be, but it was not 1-4, the road itself. It was the area. Pinellas County was obviously conservative. Hillsborough County, with the exception of the Latin and the black vote, was conservative, particularly east and south Hillsborough County. Polk County was conservative. So, going across, you had a conservative strip all the way across. We had big maps showing the population. We discounted to a great extent Miami and Fort Lauderdale, particularly Dade County, for several reasons. We did not think we would do well there. B: Carlton wound up doing well there? C: Carlton did well, but we did pretty good. We did not come close to carrying it. We did not expect to. We came closer in Broward County. As you go up the coast, you get more conservative. Then, when we got to west Florida-the Tampa Tribune came out that evening about ten o'clock. The Tribune used to come out about nine o'clock, and you would go downtown and buy one when they were giving them to all the people that distributed them. B: This is the Tribune, not the [Tampa] Times? C: The Times was still in existence, but this was the Tribune, and the Tribune had a headline, "Doyle Carlton Wins"... a big headline. That was just like the Harry Truman headline [referring to the erroneous Chicago Tribune front page announcement of a Thomas Dewey victory in the 1948 presidential election], you know. That was on the night of the election. B: This is the Democratic primary we are talking about. C: Right. B: And that was in 1959, so it would have been about August or so. C: No, that would have been in 1960. The election was in 1960. They always take office in the odd years. Elections are in even years. Our election primaries then were at different times than they are now. Now, I think our primaries are in September. Back then, our primaries were in April, May. So, we had a long time between then and the general election. Anyway, when we won the Democratic primary, the general election...I do not even remember who was running, to tell you the truth, so it was not a problem. So the election was a primary. I have that