HIL CO 73 page 10 had some headquarters in Pinellas County and Polk County and all over. We three offices in Tampa, one in downtown on Tampa Street, one in Ybor City, and one in West Tampa. Of course, Doyle [won Hillsborough County] because he grew up in Tampa. He went to school at Plant High School. B: Who was that? C: Doyle Carlton, who Farris ran against. We came within 300 votes of winning Hillsborough County, and that really was the key for him being elected, Farris Bryant being elected. B: That was a close election? C: Very close. I remember we had some experts from upcountry. I do not remember who they were now, but they showed us what would be the key to the election, and that was what became to be known as the 1-4 corridor, from Clearwater/Tampa/St. Pete to Daytona Beach through Orlando. Within that big geographical area, that was the area where we thought we could win the election, but we had to do well in west Florida. We figured that Farris, being a conservative, and Doyle, basically being a little more liberal, and that is purely and simply socially, I mean, that was what the common perception was at the time. Doyle and Farris were no different. I mean, they both felt the same way. Doyle would have been a hell of a governor, would have been a great governor. I did not know Doyle Carlton, but I came to know Farris Bryant through a group of people here in Tampa, John Hammer being one of them, the Cones being others. Through them, I got to know Farris Bryant. B: Who is John Hammer? C: John Hammer was a very successful life-insurance man here in Tampa who had gone to the University of Florida, and he had somehow gotten to be friendly with Farris. I do not know how. The Cones were friendly. They were road-builders. All of the road-builders were basically friendly with Farris. For what reason, I do not know. I guess they felt like he would be fair in the building of roads throughout the State of Florida. B: Did Doyle Conner and Farris Bryant both believe that it was important to improve transportation and build more roads? C: No question about it. B: Everybody then pretty much believed that, did they not? C: At that time, we were just beginning our big expansion in Florida, in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Yes, no question about it. Our road system was