YBOR 70 Page 53 L: Yes, Claxton was married. I do not think his wife had much more education than he. Claxton would always tell you he had a lot of street education. He learned the hard way and yet he was one of the finest persons that you could have ever talked to, down to earth, real community-conscious. When he ascended and became prestigious and affluent, he was willing to share with the poor people in the community. P: To apply this, though, a little bit more to how it played itself out in the black community. At fraternity dances and sorority dances, would you often find, like at sorority dances, a school teacher, perhaps, going to a sorority dance with her husband who might be a non-professional. L: Yes, were you married to a husband who did not have the education, you took him. He went. of course, some other fellows fell out of place as far as being able to talk as you and I are talking here today. They felt, somewhat out of place but nobody looked on them with disdain. You were married to so-and-so, so you were accepted because that was your wife and you could become involved. P: So you were accepted at these functions? L: Yes. P: Very often, you might see a doctor married to a school teacher rubbing shoulders with a janitor married to a school teacher? L: Yes, very easily. P: That could kind of, not do away with class distinctions, but kind of make it a little less clear? L: Right. A thing I was talking about some time ago is the Cabots, they spoke to the Lodges and the Lodges only spoke to the Cabots. P: You are trying to talk about that... L: Yes, that New England thing there. What really happened in some instances, at the outset, black society sort of tried to pattern itself after white society. P: Even in Tampa? L: I think that early on when I was not here, but some of that rubbed off. P: Can you...