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L: A few. Very few. That was a minimal thing, one or two.

P: Lee Davis, was he one?

L: Lee Davis might have.

P: How about Claxton?

L: No he did not. He had a fabulous house though.

P: Did he have a pool table in his house.

L: I think Claxton did. Bob Gilder could better tell you. Bob owns that house now.

P: O.K.

L: That was one of the first prestigious houses in this community and it was quite a
 thing in its day.

P: You told me before, why don't you say again. You told me previously that he
 built this house for prestige.

L: Exactly.

P: Why don't you say that again?

L: In order to be identified as somebody. He was a showman. The older people
 looked down on people in show business and so forth, but Claxton said that for
 prestige and things that he did and gave away, was for the very purpose of
 identifying himself with the others in the community who were called the upeties.

P: They were called what?

L: The high-ups or the muck-de-muck, or whatever the expression is. Usually if you
 had to do it over again, it really did not matter that much. You do not have to do
 that. You do not have to worry about this one and that one and where he is, just
 make your contribution.

P: Of course he said that when he was well respected?

L: Yes, after the fact and looking back at the years we experience, he said oh, that
 did not matter.

P: In addition to trying to send my kids to these ball dances, trying to get invited to
 them myself, not playing pool, maybe having a pool table in my home, making
 sure I do not go out there and play pool, making sure my kids do not go out there