RJ: Boo Pace Franklin.

CJ: Was it a nickname?

RJ: Well honey, do not ask me; I do not know. (Actually, yes.)

CJ: What was the name of the hosiery mill?

RJ: Chipman-LaCrosse.

CJ: You said that your father came from Upward?

RJ: There is a crossroads named Upward which is about three miles east of East Flat
 Rock.

CJ: The U.S.S. Langley.

RJ: Very well done.

CJ: You said that was the first aircraft carrier?

RJ: [It was] the first aircraft carrier in the navy.

CJ: And it was a plane tender? Is that what you called it?

RJ: A seaplane tender.

CJ: That means planes landed on it?

RJ: It was very obsolete as a carrier, so they just made a seaplane tender out of it. [It]
 carried a lot of aviation fuel and we would go out and rig out booms and we could
 refuel the seaplanes at sea.

CJ: Oh, OK. [Who was] Ramsey?

RJ: Logan Ramsey. Oh, he was a wonderful gentlemen.

CJ: And Kenneth Craig.

RJ: Kenneth Craig.

CJ: And is that the family that you met with over in Pearl Harbor at the reunion with his
 daughter?


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