are] a couple of letters over there. How about mailing those letters for me and
 getting me some stamps? There is some money up there." He said, "All right." So
 he walked out and I looked around and the corpsman was sitting there shaking his
 head. So I said, "What is the matter with you?" He said, "That is the first time in
 my life I ever saw a lieutenant send an admiral on an errand." I said, "Oh, that is
 right, he is an admiral isn't he?" [laughter] But everyone was most kind to me.

 Of course I had a real bout with medical addiction to Demerol. But I astonished
 everyone by gradually [reducing my dosage]. I stopped the drugs during the daytime,
 and then at night. I announced one time to the ward doctor: "Oh, Dr. Driskell, I
 am off Demerol now." He said, "Oh, who took you off?" I said, "I did." He said,
 "Well, you cannot do that." I said, "You mean I am not supposed to?" And he said,
 "No, you cannot just quit." I said, "I did. I have not had a shot in two weeks." He
 said, "Well, boy, if you were not off before, you are now." Everybody in the hospital
 was astonished that I was able to do it. So they came around and asked me if it was
 true that I managed to do this. I said, "Sure, it is very easy." So I started training
 people to quit smoking that way. It is a secret process. I teach people how to do it,
 easily. Well, I have talked you to death.

CJ: Let me get a few names spelled. You said there was a German gentlemen, Betz?

RJ: Betz. I did not know the rest of his name. Old Mr. Betz--he was a nice old man.

CJ: And Mamie McCall?

RJ: Mamie McCall Hood.

CJ: And Uncle Cephas and Sicey?

RJ: Sicey and Cephas.

CJ: Where did that come from? Do you know?

RJ: I have no idea. I have never known anyone else named that. But I have never seen
 any man as handsome as Uncle Ceph; he was absolutely beautiful.

CJ: He was gorgeous, yes.

RJ: [He was] a good looking man; [he had] black hair, brown eyes, and then he had nice
 coffee colored [skin]. He was the most beautiful Cherokee Indian you ever saw.

CJ: What happened to that part of the family? Do we still know people from that part
 of the family? Were they accepted?


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