nice. Living was so much less expensive. It was a marvelous move. Now the people
 who had been so anxious to get out of the squadron and stay in Miami were trying
 to get back in it. We did not let one of them come back and it tickled me to death.

 I had a wonderful time there because we took over the country club as an officer's
 club, and we maintained the golf course. And the squadron was most popular,
 because we were great bootleggers. It was a dry county. In fact, [the whole state of]
 Oklahoma was dry, [so] we did a lot of bootlegging. Besides that, you could say,
 "Hey, anybody who wants to play golf, come on out and play. That is all right, [there
 are] no dues; just go on and play." So, we became very popular.

 Another very interesting thing was that one of the squadron's members went down
 to get married, and [he] just discovered here a while back that the minister that
 married him was Oral Roberts. Yes, his marriage certificate is mounted in his
 hallway; I saw it here a while back. Anyway, we were quite a force in town. We
 married the girls right and left. Arlen's boss came into the bowling alley one
 evening, and he had been drinking a little bit. The next thing I know, he had
 grabbed my by the arm and introduced me to the prettiest girl in Oklahoma. So that
 is where I met Arlen. She was very dignified, but I soon broke her of that. We were
 married on April 29, 1945.

 All of a sudden we were transferred out to [a place that was] really in the boondocks;
 [it was] a little town called Clinton out in western Oklahoma. We got DC-3
 airplanes. Talk about a wonderful airplane; that was the most marvelous flying
 machine that has ever been invented. It could fly by itself. Everybody thoroughly
 enjoyed them. [Anyway], the war was going along very comfortably. All of a sudden,
 someone invented the atom bomb and the war was quickly over. In a matter of ten
 days or so, the war was gone. All of a sudden, everybody was staggering around,
 wondering what in the world they were going to do. So I stuck around a little while
 and Arlen and I went down to New Orleans, [Louisiana]. [We] spent six weeks
 waiting orders down there and then we went down to the Banana River, a big
 seaplane base down on Cape Canaveral in Florida.

 I hung around the seaplanes for a while, but now I wanted to go to college. So I got
 out of the navy. I had liked Oklahoma, so I decided to go to Oklahoma A & M in
 Stillwater. So I picked up my family and we moved up to Stillwater. I started
 college, which I thoroughly enjoyed.

CJ: This was when?

RJ: This was 1946. I had decided to become a dentist, [until] I started thinking about
 how it was that a dentist made his living, [and] what his work was like. I thought,
 "No, I cannot do that. I have to be where I can at least see outside." We did not
 have what I wanted there, so I decided to move back into the navy. I applied for


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