You very seldom see black people with those names because those families were the
 ones who lived in that part of the country, and they just plain did not own slaves.
 Particularly a man named Edney that lived out in a little town called Edneyville just
 east of Hendersonville. Mr. Edney would buy slaves and then free them. There is
 still a little community where he gave these people land and there is a little
 settlement down there. An interesting thing about them is that even back in the days
 of slavery, just very quietly, the black kids went to school with the white kids in an
 integrated situation all through segregation. Nobody ever said a word; everybody got
 along fine. They all speak good English, [and have] very good diction. Some of
 them are college educated and are very good apple growers. They are still living in
 a little old valley that is all their own.

CJ: You showed me that. We went down around Chimney Rock.

RJ: Towards Bat Cave. Yes, I thought maybe I had showed you that. Anyway, getting
 back to the Civil War and the fact that the Southerners in our part of the country
 were not very keen on the war. My great grandfather, Captain Robert King Jones,
 was very anti-slavery and he recruited a group of ninety men. If you think back to
 how small the population was at that time, [that] was a majority of the people who
 were of an age and physical condition to go to war. They marched through the
 mountains to Knoxville [Tennessee] and served during the whole war in the Union
 army.

 The interesting thing about that is, in our part of the county, they now put little
 markers about two feet high and about a foot wide by the graves of former
 servicemen of any and all wars: the Revolutionary War, [The War of] 1812, [The]
 Civil War, World War I, World War II. It is interesting to note that in the old
 cemeteries there, there are about two Union soldiers for each Confederate soldier.
 I have this on good authority because my cousin Dr. George Jones, a historian and
 retired Baptist minister, has really educated me [by] taking me all over the
 countryside and showing me things.

 One rather amusing thing that [George] did, was that he took me out to a cemetery
 one time and said, "Here is a grave that you will be interested in." I looked at it and
 I said, "Well, it says Sergeant Ledbetter." I looked at the dates and he had died in
 1864. I said, "Wait a minute, he died during the war." [George] said, "Yes, he was
 a sergeant in the Confederate army. He is interesting to you because he is your
 cousin." This sergeant brought two privates out to capture your grandfather, James
 King Jones, and his brother, John. They wanted to put them in the Confederate
 army, because they were real desperate for soldiers by this time. They had left them
 alone up until this time because of the fact [that] they were farmers with big families
 and they were [more] valuable to them there with all their kids growing food than
 they were as soldiers. But finally they needed a few more guns. So they sent
 Sergeant Ledbetter and these two other soldiers out to capture Grandpa and his


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