CJ: My name is Chelsea Jones. I'm interviewing Ralph Howell Jones, my grandfather, at his home in Lake Placid, Florida, 106 NW Lake June Road. It is February 20, 1993. I would like to start off by asking you about when you were born. RJ: I was born August 11, 1918 in Henderson County, North Carolina. CJ: Were you born in a hospital? RJ: No, I was born at home. I will show you a picture of the house. CJ: OK. RJ: There was red tar paper on the outside. CJ: How long had your family been in North Carolina? RJ: Many, many years. We were original settlers of Henderson, Transylvania, Buncombe, and Polk counties. [We settled] mainly in Henderson County though, which is on the southern edge of North Carolina, on a little plateau up above Spartanburg and Greenville, South Carolina. CJ: What were your parents' names? RJ: My father's name was Franklin Pierce Jones. [He was] named after a rather obscure president. And my mother's name was Sally Kate Hood. CJ: And did you have any siblings? RJ: I had one sister, Mary Marguerite. And [I had] one brother, Franklin Pierce Jones, II. CJ: Was your brother older than [you]? RJ: No, my sister was six years older [than I], and my brother was nine years younger. We were real strung out; it was almost like raising three only-children for my parents. CJ: You said our family, the Joneses, were original settlers of North Carolina? RJ: Both sides of the family were original settlers up in the mountains. We started out very early in the history of the United States. One of my relatives was named Pace; [he] was an original settler at Jamestown. Both sides of my family started on the east coast of North Carolina and Virginia, and then they migrated down through South Carolina and into the area around the Spartanburg and Greenville County areas in upper South Carolina. And then they turned north and worked their way up through -1-