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 into the new modern, civilized America. And the adjustment was great, be-
 cause the adjustment was with the families. They all felt close together
 and closely knit, but overcoming the hardships in the New World, I think,
 that made them bear their burden a great deal easier, because each one was
 more of help to the other. The ones that they had brought over here, and the
 ones that they sent for....In fact, my father had sent for all of his family,
 which was five brothers. In the Safer family, on my mother's side, the five
 brothers and two sisters all landed in Jacksonville. And one would send for
 the other. The early rifewas not an organized life. It was sandlot ath-
 letics, playing in public parks, trying to organize teams to play against
 the Protestants of the city, because at that time there was a certain feeling
 against Jewish competition also, and Jewish fellows, and we managed to over-
 come a great deal of this with good, clean athletic programs, not organized,
 but done by itself. So finally, after high school, there came time for
 college and I went to the University of Florida. I was to room with Hyman
 Katz, who was an attorney in Jacksonville later on, after his graduation.
 Another roommate was Max "Goldie" Goldstein, also an attorney in later life.
 A tremendous football player of renown and in the apartment complex where
 we had a room was my present machuten, Max Glickstein, who was studying
 engineering. So it's quite a humorous coincidence that my daughter marries
 his son later on in life, but that's neither here nor there, with the history
 of Jacksonville. The thing is that times were very hard. It was after
 World War I, and for a while there was a big boom in Florida, and the boom
 was in Jacksonville and people were making money hand over fist, but only on
 paper. A few cashed in maybe, but everybody got clobbered one way or another.
 They lost a lot of money, and particularly when the Citizens Bank, which was
 the stronghold of the Jewish community, failed. I think that was a very
 unfortunate blow, but still, how can you say there was a Depression when we
 didn't know any better? We'd been poor all the time, and we didn't think of
 the big blow of '29, '30, and '31 as anything unusual, because we never had
 it good anyhow. And I think that helped many of the Jewish citizens of the
 city to really pick themselves up because they knew it always had been a.hard
 struggle. There hadn't been easy times. My graduation from dental school
 in Atlanta, which is now Emory University, was in 1929. I came to Jackson-
 ville. I'd been going with one girl for probably ten years, and we were
 married in 1931.

S: What was her name?

W: Her name was Jean Stein. And when I say Jean Stein, it brings me to the best
 part of the story that I know. It brings me up to River Garden EHebrew
 Home for the Aged]. I not only married Jean Stein, but I think that I also
 must have married her mother, Mrs. Rose Stein, because Mrs. Stein was a very
 dominant, intelligent, wise woman who had a definite purpose in life, and
 this she transmitted to her daughter, and some of it even leaked over onto
 me. Now, by this time, the new Conservative synagogue hdd opened, the Jack-
 sonville Jewish Center, and there was a ladies' organization.

S: Were you married there, Sam? Where were you married?