enormous change in the skill of surgery and medicine that occurred between 1943 and 1980 enabled people who are very competent people--possibly not nationally prominent--to handle with great success a problem that baffled the best neurosurgeon in the world at that earlier time. It is interesting. D: Well, have they corrected that problem now. R: Yes, they have. The only thing it leaves me with is a visual'problem which cuts off my peripheral vision to the right entirely. It is not only peripheral, I do not see anything to the right. I have half. Imagine looking straight ahead and seeing only half of what is before you. That is what I have, not one eye or the other, just half of the field. It took awhile to get used to that I can tell you. But I was lucky in that I have the left field and I am right handed. For instance, if I could see only to the right I probably could not play golf, or at least I would have to become a left-handed golfer. It was just a lucky break. D: Well, good. R: Is this too much baloney for your tape? D: It sounds like your father was very interested in your getting an education. R: No question about it. My parents were both for it. D: Did your mother work? R: No, she never worked. Her father was a fairly prominent person in Chicago. He was on the Chicago Board of Trade, and when he died, as a matter of fact, he was the oldest member at that time of the Board. They were not especially well-to-do, but comfortable, and he had a nice summer home. We had a less-elaborate home next to his on a lake in Wisconsin, which is where I spent summers until I was about sixteen. D: What was your mother's name R: She was named Annie Lucretia Badenoch. Badenoch is my middle name. D: Your rather casually decided to study law? R: In a way I drifted into it. D: It was wither law or business. R: It was not put to me quite cold turkey, but yes, I think so. D: How did you decide to go to the University of Michigan? R: First of all, even in those days it was known as a very fine institution, so it was a place that would be worth going to. Secondly, I had two friends who were there two years ahead of me, who had been very good friends and fraternity brothers at Rochester. I think that had something to do with it. 7