UFHC 58 Page 22 S: She had a traditional sort of role. P: I guess. She really didn't have any role when I think about it, not like today. Even Mrs. Prystowsky and the dean's that followed, their wives really participated. But no, she didn't have that kind of a role, and I don't know why that was. S: That's interesting, not even as an entertainer. P: No, [they] never had any functions at their home. I'm not even sure that she went along on those recruitment dinners with him. I don't even remember that she went on business trips either. I just don't think she did that. S: So you didn't know her at all. P: Yes, I knew her. We spoke on the phone, I would see her. I bet you I could count on two hands how many times I saw her the entire time he was dean. It was not very many. It was just Dr. Harrell. S: That's interesting. P: Very interesting, yeah. S: I just am thinking now that I've talked to a lot of people about him, you really don't hear anything about her. P: No. S: Do you have any sense of what she was doing or what she was like? P: Mrs. Lang was a very dear friend to her. She communicated with Mrs. Lang a lot. I'm sure there was no interaction with other faculty wives. S: Did you have any thoughts about Dr. Harrell or the medical school? Things that you would say as sort of a wrap up or a general sense of the direction of medicine P: Obviously, he got us off to a good start. It was just a pleasure to work with him, and a privilege really, it really was. He was just a man ahead of his time and just did good things to get us started, and I think he put us on strong foundation. It was a privilege to work for him, and to know him.