23 some kind of ecological impact study, and then he did coastal studies. He did some for the Navy all the way up to Cape Hatteras, but he did the whole state of Florida. I went with him and I started traveling. R: Then you're very familiar with ecology problems in Florida? D: I don't know. I'm familiar, but I'm not knowledgable. R: So about the time you retired in 1969 did you buy this house? D: No, we had this house since seventy-five. R: And this was a new development. D: It's been here since the sixties. R: Who are some of your neighbors? D: On one side there's Joseph Frank and his wife Irene. Across the street, Wilford and Ruth Hasen and on the corner there's Dr. Chen, Dean of Engineering, and on the other corner is Dr. Lewis and his wife Gwendolyn. He's in education. R: Didn't Denver Gaughan live nearby? D: They lived not too far away, on Twenty-first street. R: And then they retired? D: They went to South Carolina and sold their house to Ruth Maren. Her husband is in Pharmacology. They're divorced. And on this side is the manager of the Belk Lindsey stores. R: Well, it's a lovely neighborhood and this happens to be the neighborhood that was hit by a tornado several years ago. D: It is, and fortunately I had left the day before to go to Washington. R: Not a tree on your place was touched. D: The top of an oak tree was taken off, but it needed to be taken off anyway. R: But some people had their tall pine trees cut off in the middle. D: Yes, the people across the street lost many, many trees and my neighbor said that he saw the tornado just lift up and come to the top of our houses and take the tops off trees and then come down farther to the north. R: That was about four years ago? What year was that? D: I think that it was three years ago, I'm not sure. R: I was just coming back to Gainesville from Atlanta, and we had heard about it in the Atlanta airport and the Denver Baughan's were there. We brought them from the airport into the house and they were so nervous because we saw that