9 D: Well, he must have been. R: A charismatic man? D: He may have been a better pastor than a preacher, I really don't know. R: But in any case he had too many parishioners. D: Yes he did. When he went to St.Petersburg in 1937, he was sixty and he thought that he was going to retire. He went to a tiny church and it started growing and it got to be a big, big church even though he was... R: of course was growing too. D: It was not the first church, but a little church, but it grew so fast. It was the Fith Avenue Baptist Church. R: In St. Pete. Now, by that time you were in college. D: By that time I was married and gone. R: Tell us about going to college. The name of the college was... D: Coker College, in Hartsville, South Carolina. -A small women's college. R: Was it strict? D: Very. R: Did you have to wear uniforms? D: No. Nothing like that. We had to wear an evening dress to dates and concerts on the weekends. We were expected to change our clothes for dinner at night. R: You went to college in what year? D: In twenty-six. R: At what age? D: I was seventeen. I majored in mathematics, minored in biology, and took piano for four years. I had a busy time. R: That was the same year I went to college at the women's college in Mississippi and we had to wear uniforms. So I know that some colleges had to wear uniforms in the South in those days. D: They didn't at Tallahassee. R: They didn't at that time at Tallahassee? Well, I guess you're lucky. How did you feel about the college? Did you like it? You went because of the scholar- ship, but did you like it when you got there? D: I did not. My sister loved it. R: Your sister had gone there ahead of you?