2 D: Yes, he was pastor of the Baptist church there. It was right at the top of the hill on College Avenue. It still is but it's in a different church now. They built a much larger one in 1960. The one that was there most of my life was one that my father built after he got there. R: Well, there were probably more Baptists there, in Tallahassee, than any other denomination, wouldn't you think? D: I think so. When they started to build the new church I must have been three and they had me all dressed up to break the ground for the new church. When everybody bowed their heads to pray I disappeared. I ran and they caught me two blocks away and took me back because I still had to dig with my little shovel with the big ribbon on it. R: Wouldn't it be wonderful if you had a picture of that. D: I don't but my sister does. Soon after we went to Tallahassee Park Trammell became governor and he and his wife and my parents became very close friends. I was frequently in the mansion when they had teas or receptions. They put me to sleep upstairs. I was a little tiny girl and remember the fun of sliding down the banisters, and a wonderful little settee in the hall that was Chinese and had a lot of carving on it. I could trace the dragons and all these things. It kept me quiet while the ladies talked. R: And that's how you got your love of Chinese furniture. This room is full of lovely things from the Orient. D: When I heard that they were tearing down the mansion that's the first thing that I asked about. They said that it wasn't very fine furniture and wasn't worth preservrng,which made me very sad. Those are some of my very special rememberances of Tallahassee. When I was three and a half my sister, who was three years older, started school, and I was heartbroken. R: You haven't told us yet about your sister. Did you have any brothers? D: I had one sister, Frances, who was three years older than myself. R: And no brothers? D: No other family. When she started school, at the demonstration school at the college in Tallahassee, which was Florida Female College I was--They consented to let me go to kindergarten, and can you believe, I was bused, only it was a horse-drawn vehicle that had little benches all around where the children sat to go to kindergarten. R: That was at the college? That was probably a demonstration... D: It was a demonstration school and they had kindergarten and three grades at that time. R: How old were you then? D: I was three and a half; I was there many years. It was an era when they had many new ideas in education. I was a casualty.