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M: Where she sat.
T: But other than that, my associations with the Black students I've
had have been very fine. They have attended all of the social functions
that my seminar has had, and all .
M: What seminar is that that you taught?
T: Well, I had a seminar in the CEP program ever since Team 4 started,
and I think that was around 1974.
M: You'llhave to tell me what Team 4 is because Idon't know.
T: Well, the preparation program for elementary teachers that we have
is the Childhood Education Program, commonly known as CEP. It
started out in 1959 with Dr. [Arthur Wright] Combs--a dream of
his. It had ninety and then it had 120 then 150 students selected
at random who would be in this experimental program, and at
that time it was known as the New Elementary Program. It's quite
well-known throughout the United States and Canada. A couple of
colleges in Canada have copied it, and then shortly we added
Team 2, then Team 3 and Team 4.
M: Because it grew so much.
T: It became the total program for the preparation of elementary
teachers, and I taught the social studies in Team 1 from the
time it started. Then when Team 4 became a reality, I-had three
assignments. I had social studies in Team 1 and Team 4 and a
seminar in Team 4. A seminar is considered thirty students and
you meet half of them in the afternoon and half at night once
a week. Part of it is to become well-adjusted individuals and get
to know each other well, and we have at least one social function
a quarter.
M: So everybody got to know each other on a really friendly basis?
T: Hopefully, yes. I still hear from my very first ones who
graduated. .
M: Really?
T: Dana had a baby last winter and I can tell you just all of them.
M: So you still hear from all your students in that program. Do they
still use the program at the university?
T: Yes. Because of the decrease in the program, there are now just teams--
Team 2 and Team 4. They eliminated 1 and 3. There are five
seminars now in each team, and just two teams.