13 T: Oh, I dated one a lot longer than that. M: Oh really? Your husband, is he from Gainesville originally? T: Yes. M: And his family is all from around Gainesville? T: Uh huh. M: So that's why you're still in Gainesville, I guess? T: Uh huh. T: She was thirty in August. M: What is she doing? T: She is a nurse in the surgical intensive care unit at the VA hospital. M: What influence, if any, would you say the College of Education has on the university? Do you consider it to be one of the strongest in the university? This would be as you've looked as it through the years. T: I think I'm going to pass on that one. M: You were here since the early '30s then and went through: the traumas of the '60s, I guess, and saw how that changed with the Vietnam War. Were there any problems here at Florida, do you remember, admitting blacks to the College of Education? T: I cannot say that there were in terms of the College of Education. I had one girl, early, who, I don't recall her grade in the couse. It evidently wasn't very high because she said that I recognized her answers because she was black. M: You recognized her answers because she was black. That was the only reason why? T: The only reason I could find fault with hers over some other students. M: What year was that, do you remember? T: Oh, I have no idea. And I don't remember the girl, I can just remember her sitting back there.