9 M: They came to class? Don't do that anymore. Were they more serious or were they about the same? T: They're writing skills were better, composition. M: They've said that they've lost that now, and they're trying to get back to teaching basics. T: They had to write a paper, either they took more pride in it, or they had better skills in doing it, or they felt they'd better do it better. M: Were students really involved in activities outside the classroom, like on-campus activities? T: My girls were just beginning to come around that time and more of the girls were involved in sororities than in a lot of other things. Many of the girls who were active were involved in the sorority activities. M: What do you mean by "my girls"? T: Well, the girls that I got to know. M: You got to know your advisees and people like that? T: At that time still you see, in the 40,s, iFlorida was just going to requiring a degree. There were a lot of older teachers, who. . M: What do you mean, requiring a degree? You could teach at Florida without a degree? T: For two years. Most of them were teaching on two years. M: So sometimes the students had more education than the teachers. Did it work out that way? T: No, not at the university, but in the public schools. M: Oh, I see. T: A lot of the teachers had only two years and during the '40's and early '50's they were completing their degrees. I had a class for years on Saturday. It was a four credit course, nine to one, and. .