8 T: That was probably around 1938, because I think Mrs. Tillman had left a year before World War II. M: How big was P. K. Yonge when you came? T: One room of each elementary grade, to eighth. M: And it would have been in what is now Norman Hall? T: So were the college parts. M: They had education classes and P. K. Yonge at the same place. Well, that was because they had the students helping with the classes? T: No, because there were, I think, just three or four college instructors at that time. M: Do you remember who they were? T: Dean [James William] Norman, Dr. [Glenn Ballard] Simmons, Dr. [Joseph Richard] Fulk, Dr. [Edward Walter] Garris. M: How long did you teach then until you moved up to your. . T: Oh, I kind of think it was 1948, but I don't remember. M: And you became what in 1948? T: An instructor. M: Then you were an instructor until you retired, or. ... T: Assistant professor. M: In 1948, what did you.start teaching? What was the class that you taught when you quit teaching at P. K. Yonge? T: I think it was a curriculum class and worked with students in the school. Most of us worked with students in the schools. M: You just taught that one course then. T: I don't remember. M: Students back then, were they any different than they are today? Of course, there are a lot more women going to college in general today, but what were the students like back then? T: They came to class.