134 L: A man in Gainesville, a lawyer, was elected to the State legislature. He came to see me one day with a letter. He said it was very embarrassing and he didn't know how he ought to handle the thing. It was a copy of a letter Sam Getzen had written to Ed Ball and he said, "I want to recommend to you, Representative-elect Ira somebody for appointment to the house Ways and Means Committee. He is a very responsible person, I think he will support all your proposals for taxes. He doesn't have a place to live and if you would furnish him a place down in Wakulla Springs I'm sure he would appreciate it." He came to me and he said, "I don't want to be tied up with Ball like that. I don't want to accept those favors. How can I get around this? What shall I do?" I've forgotten my advice to him. If he'd come to me today, I'd say just ignore it and not do anything. Well, I found out later on that he came up here while I was here and he bought a trailer and lived in a trailer during the legislative session. He's dead now, Ira someone, who was the legislator then. Anyway, Sam Getzen had told Ed Ball he would be a good man for the house Ways and Means Committee. And I have some other evidence that Mr. Ball may have influenced the selection of members for the house Ways and Means Committee. All right, going back to the university; that was a rather unpleasant experience. At about the same time, the case involving the football team being on WPA came up. P: Now, that was the summer of '39. L: Yes. Now this was almost the same period of time because the whole idea of a golf course, everything dropped with the outbreak of war. P: Sure we could be wrong on the football team. It could be the summer of '38 or '39. L: No, I think it's '39 or '40. The investigation took place in '40, as I recall. I was a teacher in government. I knew some of the things that happened outside. I knew about the congressional investigation. I knew that the county director of WPA was fired. I knew the state director was fired, and fired specifically for allowing the football team to be put on WPA rolls. WPA was passed by Congress to help families without an income, working-class people, and at the time it was said by the people in the social work field that there were families in Alachua County who were denied WPA jobs because the football members took their place. It was like that, and I knew that. When the investigation was going on my good friend, Joe Weil, and I were discussing some