127 him, "Well, someday we might be as beautiful as they say Japan is." Because they had not had azaleas when I was a student there, but they planted them on the campus and in the city and it was a beautiful spring. Roy said, "Yes, the azaleas are beautiful if only we did the same thing the Japanese did a thousand years ago." I asked him what he was referring to and he mentioned several native plants, some of which I knew, having been reared in the rural areas and in the forests of Florida, that sort of appealed to me. I said, "Well, why don't you develop them?" He says, "We don't have the space." I said, "Sure, the university has the property on the other side of the campus," the area where the medical school is now. He said, "But they have other plans for that." He said, "That's not the best place for it. This area right back in here where so many nice houses are now, beyond the president's home." The president's home wasn't there at the time. P: Of course not. L: But all that area back in there, he said, "That's the place that ought to be acquired by the university and made into a botanical garden of Florida native trees and shrubs and plants." I said, "Well, who owns it?" He said, "A man named Donahue," I believe his'name was, "lives up in Michagan, has a winter home in Ocala." I said, "What do you think it would take to acquire it?" He said, "I don't know, he might give it to us." So he told me that lawyer, Atkins, the father of Jimmy Atkins on the Florida Supreme Court, represented Mr. Donahue. So I went down to see Mr. Atkins and asked him about the possibility of acquiring that property and how much it would take to acquire. I didn't have any money myself but I thought maybe I might be able to approach some people with money who would buy the land for the university. He said, "Well, now, Mr. Donahue is coming down in a month or two, and I'll let you know and you can talk to him." So I went down and talked to Mr. Donahue when he came and he said, "I'll give you forty, fifty, sixty acres of it for a botanical garden." It appealed to him, the idea. He said, "If you would agree to build a paved road down in there so people could drive into it." Of course he was thinking about the rest of this property, because his property reached all over the old Michigan Road then. So, I made an appointment with Dr. Tigert and with Roy by my side, I went in to tell him that. "Just the property we need for a golf course." I said, "But Dr. Tigert, he's offering it for a botanical garden," and Dr. Tigert says, "We need that property for a golf course. Let's go look at it." So it was about 11:30 at that time and the three of us went out and walked through it.