124 "No, it's about the same size in student population. I wouldn't say it was any better than the university here. It does have one problem, a big problem always, and that's the medical school. It's located in Denver and it's always been a problem with them to finance it properly, and we read about it a lot in the Denver papers." He said, "But, the school is no better than the University of Florida." And I said no, and he said, "Well, I think I'll write those people out there in Colorado that I'm not interested in the job." Well, I knew that my friend Bob Stearns had been selected to be president two years before. That's what they did out there at that time, and I've known several presidents of the University of Colorado. But Bob Stearns was a lawyer in Denver, and he was selected as dean of the law school three years before Dr. Goerge Narlin retired. A friend of mine, Ben M. Cherington, who later was president of the University of Denver, did you ever know him? P: I didn't know him. L: What a remarkable and somewhat controversial person. But people would laugh at it right now. He believed in the study of international relations. He believed in the League of Nations, as I did. P: You said you had talked to him about this appointment? K: Bob Stearns. I said, "Now, why does Bob want to give up his law practice," he was a member of one of the most prestigious law firms in the West, "to be dean of the College of Law?" He says, "Oh, Bob is going up there to be an assistant to Dr. Narlin as well as dean of law school and he's been selected as the next president of the University of Colorado." I knew Bob and his wife fairly well. As a matter of fact, Bob wrote a poem about me one night after I'd given a talk to a group on Denver. "I love to hear Angus harangus, of money and credit and things..." I was discussing the concept of the flexible dollar that Roosevelt had in that period, that Al Smith called the rubber dollar. This concept was to have a dollar which had the same purchasing power one year as it had the next year, based upon commodities rather than gold; we went off the gold standard. P: In '34. L: So Iwas asked to discuss that with a group of Denver people, and I believe A.D. H. Kaplan. . P: I know who he is. L: Kaplan is a friend of mine, and there was another person, we were