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L: Against Dr. Lockey. And so they couldn't agree on Dr. Lockey.
P: Why were Stoutamire and Riley opposed to Lockey?
L: In the first place, well, I don't think they knew him. They
didn't know anything about him, he was just a stranger from
California. I'm quite sure if the thing had been done in the
open that Ralph Stoutamire's family here in Tallahassee,
he came from Tallahassee, would have persuaded him to support
Dr. Lockey.
P: Dr. Lockey was a very reputable scholar.
L: Yes, he was. And Ralph lost his job as a result of that, by the
way. That was one of the conditions that the Board of Control
imposed upon Dr. Tigert. I don't know whether he had a
Doctor's degree at that time or not.
P: He did.
L: Honorary.
P: Wasn't Tigert's an earned Ph.D. at that time?
L: From where?
P: I guess it was at Vanderbilt. He had already returned from
England as a Rhodes scholar.
L: Yes, I knew that. I didn't know he had an earned degree; are
you sure?
P: We can easily check it obviously in Who's Who. [Tigert's highest
earned degree Master of Arts from Pembroke College, Oxford University.
Numerous honorary degrees.] Why did the Board insist upon
Ralph Stoutamire?
L: They blamed him for this protest, stopping the agreement to appoint
Dr. Lockey.
P: And thwarting what they had planned to do.
L: Thwarting what they had planned to do.
P: They did not think they had enough political whallop to get rid
of Bert Riley?