117 P: She was a very good prognisticator. L: It was a month before we became engaged and we were married a year later. Then a little bit later I was offered the position in the General College. Later transferred to the Department of History and Government when they were still together. P: Angus, if Twere listing important events in 1937, I would list the fact that that's when you and I first met, in September of 1937. L: I can remember you in class and I remember handing back your paper one time. In those days we did not grade out papers individually. I think it may have been the first year that they gave objective tests and I thought you were not doing the best work in my class, frankly. P: It was that Huberman book that threw me. L: Oh, was that it? I guess it was the Huberman took. Do you remember reading that book? P: Sure, it was the first year that Leo Huberman's book was used. L: I have the book. The first year. .it was the only year. P: It was the only year that it was used. I have my copy of Huberman's book. L: They stopped using it a couple of months afterwards. P: I remember. L: That's always been a mystery to me as to who was responsible for that book and how they stopped it, but I protested the second day' I saw it. I didn't protest, but I just told Manning, and Bill, and John Maclechen and Woodward, we all had lunch together on the campus, and they were told that I had been reading that book, and I said, "That's the first American primer." That's a textbook in Communism. P: Don't you think that maybe Bill helped select that book, perhaps without realizing that that was the emphasis? L: He may have, yes. Now, he told me that he talked to Dean Matherly about it and Dean Matherly says, "Well, does Angus look under his bed ever night to see what's there?" He may have, but I wonder who selected that book. Wally Attwood may have, he was head of the department.