115 L: Not at all. I have a lot of confidence in young people. P: You're optimistic about the future? L: Yes, but we're going to have problems. You-know, when Abel and Cain decided to leave home they went to their father to tell him about it. He said, "Now boys, if you leave home and go out into the world, you're going to have problems." And Adam was right. P: Well, Angus, this has been a marvelous interview and I am very grateful to you for taking time to talk to me for these two days. Now, this will all go into the University of Florida Oral History Archives for researchers and scholars to use, and I presume you have no objections to your material being used in that way. L: No, the only thing that I hesitate about is the statement concerning the Communist orgainization on the campus and telling you what Bill said about Manning. I'm sure neither of them would like that, But I told you I'd tell it like it was. P: Well, I think it's important in this kind of thing to tell it like it was. I think the historical record needs to be established and obviously that's what we're doing here, so I hope you'll let it stick. L: I'll let it stick, but I wonder what Bill would say. I don't think he'd say, "Yes, I remember telling Angus that." I don't think he'd remember that. P: Well, this is your memory of the thing. L: Yes. P: I'm continuing the interview with Professor Angus Laird at his home here in Tallahassee. This is February 1, 1980, and I'm happy to be in cold Tallahassee this morning. Angus, we were trying to pull together a lot of infomration about your past when I was last here, and we talked about your family background and a lot of your early activities. We were up to the time that you had gotten your education and I guess had come to the University