112 fellow named Joel Alstein of whom we are extremely fond. He is an electronic engineer, who, years ago, began writing papers for scientists who developed things and couldn't write them in terms that the public could understand. He could do anything, even write a technical paper or he can take a technical subject and put it in everyday language. That':s been his forte, but he's also the public relations man for a big Japanese computer firm. P: What does Nancy do? L: Nancy is an assistant professor of statistics in Harvard College, that's the undergraduate part of Harvard. I believe it's associate bio-statistician in the Harvard School of Public Health, and has retained her maiden name, it's Dr. Nan McKenzie Laird, she took it back after her divorce. P: Angus, as you look back over your long and very rich life, do you have any regrets? L: No, I've thought about it a good many times. I know of one regret. I was a substitute teacher when I was still in highschool. It was out on this turpentine place that my father owned and I was sent out there to teach the school while the teacher was having an operation. There was a little girl in school who was eating a raw sweet potato and she would keep gnawing on it. I'd ask her to put it up, and finally I told her to throw it out the window, and she threw it out the window and cried. And I wasn't old enough or sensitive enough, I was about seventeen years old, to know that that girl was hungry. I should have recessed the school and gone over to the commissary and gotten something and fed her. That's one of the regrets in my life. There are a few things I would have done differently, I guess. I might have felt a little bit differently about the university when I left if I'd had a more balanced view of things. I didn't like the way Tigert ran the university. In four years we didn't have a faculty meeting there, and I was one that thought there should be greater faculty participation in the administration of a university. I have some thoughts about that and some knowledge about some of those things. You couldn't see a copy of the budget on campus; it just wasn't allowed. During the war years I could see the budget up here. I could see it very easily in two or three places. I'd go to the Board of Control office. I could go to the state library and see copies of the budget at the universities. And saw who got raises and