105 into anything, I like to dig out the facts. But the thing that really stirred me up was about the infirmary. P: Yes. L: And I had protested about the infirmary when I was a student on the campus. P: What were you protesting about? L: The fact that students were neglected, we had a poor health service. I stood!in line the first month I was on the campus. Right ahead of me was a boy named Pete Simmons, from South Carolina. Like a lot of students did at the time--I think the reason for it was that they had some kind of student rebellion at Clemson and a lot of them came to Florida. Although I found out later that he didn't go to Clemson, I don't think he did. Anyway, he was in line ahead of me. We stood until about 1:30 in line for our physical examination, required of all the freshmen. Finally, Miss Rosa Grimes, Nurse in Charge of Infirmary, came out and said, "What are you all standing out here for?" And we said we were told to come here for our physical examination. "Oh, the doctor's been gone for an hour and a half." We missed our meals; this boy was seeking the doctor for some infection he had, a sore or something like that. The boy died before the end of the week. And I'd missed my dinner in the mess hall; meal in the middle of the day was dinner in those days. The others had too. P: Now this was in the 1920's. L: That's 1923. And I followed it all the way through, and when Dr. Farr was acting president, I went to see Dr. Farr personally, when I was a graduate student, to tell him that something ought to be done about that infirmary. The same thing went on, I mean, years later. Oh, the investigation went on. The Blue Key investigated the infirmary during the war years. And they came out, I didn't see the report, but it was critical. P: Tell me about what happened during the war years which brought about that major investigation of Dr. Tigert after the war was over. Mr. Scott from Live Oak. L: Yes. I cannot place them in linewith other things at the time,