98 L: We set it up downtown. P: In Gainesville? L: In Gainesville. P: The Seagle Building? L: No, it was not a university building. It was hardly this big, with a desk right here and a secretary and I had a desk over here. P: I hope we'll be able to transfer that verbal description. L: Well, there were two desks in the room and I occupied one and my secretary occupied another. I spent practically every weekend of the war years in Jacksonville; leaving the campus Friday noon or Friday afternoon and working Saturday and sometimes Sundaymorning in Jacksonville, and then coming back to Gainesville. Then the next week the same way. P: On the train? L: No, by bus. P: Now you taught on the campus even with the declining enrollment. L: Yes. P: The pressures for teaching, perhaps, were declining also. L: Oh, yes. There were very few students there in '42 and then they had the SATC, I believe it was --Student Army Training Corps, or something like that. P: All right, I'k like to know about that. L: Kenneth Williams, whom I had known in college, a Tallahassee- Monticello boy, came down from the University of Georgia to be director of the SATC in Tallahassee. His wife, Selma Reynolds of Ocala, was a friend of my wife, and Kenneth was a friend of mine, so we saw a lot of them during the war years. He'd