93 P: It was still then the General College. L: Yes. P: And, certainly this was the argument that the people in the ' sciences and engineering made about the General College. L: Well, I accepted that, though I had no association with them, but that's what I came to believe. And I always reverted back to my course in Genung's Rhetoric--English I. There was that book that I thought I mastered, Genung's Rhetoric. I thought that by the end of the year I knew Genung's Rhetoric and I could close my eyes and see almost any page in the book. I felt that that was a great educational process, that you have one fine textbook that a student would learn and master and I think that's one of the values of the college education. P: Angus, let me ask you a little bit about your personal life now. You got married andyou set up housekeeping where in Gainesville? L: I set up housekeeping in an apartment that belonged to Steve and Zella Sashau for the first summer. The next year, I was married in June on Wednesday and on Friday I helped to register people for summer school in 1938. Then, after that, I rented a house that belonged to BoBo Arnold's father. P: Where was the Sashau apartment? L: The Sashau apartment was off behind what is now the Holiday Inn, that big motel there on the corner. P: I know it. How much rent did you pay? L: Practically nothing; I don't remember. But I was making a big salary, 225 dollars a month. P: So you could afford to live the life of luxury. L: I could afford it, yes. P: So then you moved from there in the fall into a house. L: Into a house out beyond where the president's home is three or four blocks back in there--a little house belonging to Beau Arnold's father. I didn't like the house, but when the war came along he wanted to sell it and he offered it to me. I didn't want to buy it,